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		<title>By: lifekludger - disability : technology : life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Social Internet as Social Assistive Device</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-32647</link>
		<dc:creator>lifekludger - disability : technology : life &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Social Internet as Social Assistive Device</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about, which you&#8217;ll find within the years of posting here, and on my other blog - like Social Isolation, Co-presence and Barriers. Generally though words get in my way. Thankfully others don&#8217;t have [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about, which you&#8217;ll find within the years of posting here, and on my other blog &#8211; like Social Isolation, Co-presence and Barriers. Generally though words get in my way. Thankfully others don&#8217;t have [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blob &#187; The Social Internet as Social Assistive Device</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-32646</link>
		<dc:creator>Blob &#187; The Social Internet as Social Assistive Device</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] about, which you&#8217;ll find within the years of posting here, and on my other blog - like Social Isolation, Co-presence and Barriers. Generally though words get in my way. Thankfully others don&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about, which you&#8217;ll find within the years of posting here, and on my other blog &#8211; like Social Isolation, Co-presence and Barriers. Generally though words get in my way. Thankfully others don&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Allie</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-32593</link>
		<dc:creator>Allie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say that I felt from my heart what you are talking about, I have been disabled for 7 yrs, not to your extent,... but I struggle with the isolation,... it does kill,... and I admire your cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say that I felt from my heart what you are talking about, I have been disabled for 7 yrs, not to your extent,&#8230; but I struggle with the isolation,&#8230; it does kill,&#8230; and I admire your cause.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-28963</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>  Fri Sep 7, 2007 at 4:20 AM    to merely for business .Users need the ability to decide how many walls to use .Isolation kills (...   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fri Sep 7, 2007 at 4:20 AM    to merely for business .Users need the ability to decide how many walls to use .Isolation kills (&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-28962</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>  Fri Sep 7, 2007 at 4:20 AM    to merely for business .Users need the ability to decide how many walls to use .Isolation kills (...   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fri Sep 7, 2007 at 4:20 AM    to merely for business .Users need the ability to decide how many walls to use .Isolation kills (&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-28961</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>  Tue Sep 4, 2007 at 2:55 AM    s something over on my Lifekludger blog I wrote titled “Isolation kills” you might be interested in.Isolation kills - LifekludgerDaveNo Comments »No comments yet.RSS feed for comments on this post.  ...   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tue Sep 4, 2007 at 2:55 AM    s something over on my Lifekludger blog I wrote titled “Isolation kills” you might be interested in.Isolation kills &#8211; LifekludgerDaveNo Comments »No comments yet.RSS feed for comments on this post.  &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Lifekludger</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-28960</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave the Lifekludger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian. Thanks for your comments. I am having a little difficulty understanding some of the points you&#039;re trying to make. I&#039;d like to hear more. 
 
 From what I *think* you&#039;re saying, I offer this. 
 
 I believe that meaningful connections will emerge. I believe that the tools will also emerge to make this possible. I believe this because I believe a culture creates the tools it needs to fulfill its desires. 
 
 The big question is how will the tools be distributed? Will they be used to enable the disenfranchised or simply to further enable the already enabled? (eg: greed v good) 
 
 This, of course, is largely a matter of access and a matter of human will and endeavour rather than technology advance. 
 
 Meaningful connections like anything meaningful and of value takes time. 
 
 Thanks for the thoughts. 
 
 Where you from Brian, BTW? 
 
 Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian. Thanks for your comments. I am having a little difficulty understanding some of the points you&#8217;re trying to make. I&#8217;d like to hear more. </p>
<p> From what I *think* you&#8217;re saying, I offer this. </p>
<p> I believe that meaningful connections will emerge. I believe that the tools will also emerge to make this possible. I believe this because I believe a culture creates the tools it needs to fulfill its desires. </p>
<p> The big question is how will the tools be distributed? Will they be used to enable the disenfranchised or simply to further enable the already enabled? (eg: greed v good) </p>
<p> This, of course, is largely a matter of access and a matter of human will and endeavour rather than technology advance. </p>
<p> Meaningful connections like anything meaningful and of value takes time. </p>
<p> Thanks for the thoughts. </p>
<p> Where you from Brian, BTW? </p>
<p> Dave</p>
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		<title>By: brianhayes</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-28959</link>
		<dc:creator>brianhayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 08:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve opened doors. Isolation is one. Studies are appearing that say the majority are isolated. Some have only themselves. Another challenge is that there are tools. And so, there are tools. But what of it? 
 
 If only we were able. Something of this is the oldest and most rugged of all writings. 
 
 Is it universality we are yearning, or enabling, or mere value for cost? Damn but it will be difficult to finish your post. Because we&#039;re excited that links to pages has evolved toward links to faces, will meaningful connections emerge beyond 2.0?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve opened doors. Isolation is one. Studies are appearing that say the majority are isolated. Some have only themselves. Another challenge is that there are tools. And so, there are tools. But what of it? </p>
<p> If only we were able. Something of this is the oldest and most rugged of all writings. </p>
<p> Is it universality we are yearning, or enabling, or mere value for cost? Damn but it will be difficult to finish your post. Because we&#8217;re excited that links to pages has evolved toward links to faces, will meaningful connections emerge beyond 2.0?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave the Lifekludger</title>
		<link>http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/comment-page-1/#comment-28958</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave the Lifekludger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 07:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mate. Can&#039;t see your JP comment...maybe a moderation time issue. 
 
 Laurel&#039;s post does highlight some way forward or at least part of the qualitative puzzle....even though it&#039;s still looking a lot like quantitative statistics. 
 
 You know, when writing the &#039;isolation&#039; post, I had a reference to our musings about the long tail jewels. 
 http://dnwallace.com/blog/2006/02/17/equality-on-the-blogosphere-no-gaping-voids/ 
 Specifically these bits &quot; We just want to start a conversation about IDENTIFYING ‘disconnected stuff‘ in the LongTail and DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 
 ... 
 Lots of unrealised potential value goes untapped in the long tail.&quot; 
 
 I was thinking how that&#039;s relevent for this concept of being connected and not isolated. So much value (in people) in the long tail. 
 
 You right though re Laurel&#039;s post - these tools do show the importance of connection. BUT we must remember the issue and debate we had around Shirkey&#039;s law - qualitative analysis must resist the temptation to value things in the short head more just because they exist in the short head. 
 
 As to DIRC providing value - you&#039;re still talking about ME whenever you talk about DIRC and this stuff. I&#039;M TIRED. Ask me later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mate. Can&#8217;t see your JP comment&#8230;maybe a moderation time issue. </p>
<p> Laurel&#8217;s post does highlight some way forward or at least part of the qualitative puzzle&#8230;.even though it&#8217;s still looking a lot like quantitative statistics. </p>
<p> You know, when writing the &#8216;isolation&#8217; post, I had a reference to our musings about the long tail jewels.<br />
 <a href="http://dnwallace.com/blog/2006/02/17/equality-on-the-blogosphere-no-gaping-voids/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/dnwallace.com/blog/2006/02/17/equality-on-the-blogosphere-no-gaping-voids/?referer=');">http://dnwallace.com/blog/2006/02/17/equality-on-the-blogosphere-no-gaping-voids/</a><br />
 Specifically these bits &quot; We just want to start a conversation about IDENTIFYING ‘disconnected stuff‘ in the LongTail and DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.<br />
 &#8230;<br />
 Lots of unrealised potential value goes untapped in the long tail.&quot; </p>
<p> I was thinking how that&#8217;s relevent for this concept of being connected and not isolated. So much value (in people) in the long tail. </p>
<p> You right though re Laurel&#8217;s post &#8211; these tools do show the importance of connection. BUT we must remember the issue and debate we had around Shirkey&#8217;s law &#8211; qualitative analysis must resist the temptation to value things in the short head more just because they exist in the short head. </p>
<p> As to DIRC providing value &#8211; you&#8217;re still talking about ME whenever you talk about DIRC and this stuff. I&#8217;M TIRED. Ask me later.</p>
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		<title>By: mike seyfang</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike seyfang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude - left a comment on JP&#039;s blog wot points to this: 
 http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/09/03/connected-not-channelled-continued/ 
 
 Thanks to Laurel for her post: 
 http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LaurelPapworth-OnlineCommunities-AustraliaAndGlobal/~3/151774460/facebook-at-work-analytics-is-your.html 
 
 For a timely hint about the intersection of QUALITATIVE and QUANTITATIVE - ie tools wot can measure extent of network (connectedness) and potentially impact of stories. 
 
 Gotta be a way for DIRC to provide value to government and clients here somewhere. 
 
 Fang - Mike Seyfang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude &#8211; left a comment on JP&#8217;s blog wot points to this:<br />
 <a href="http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/09/03/connected-not-channelled-continued/" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/09/03/connected-not-channelled-continued/?referer=');">http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2007/09/03/connected-not-channelled-continued/</a> </p>
<p> Thanks to Laurel for her post:<br />
 <a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LaurelPapworth-OnlineCommunities-AustraliaAndGlobal/~3/151774460/facebook-at-work-analytics-is-your.html" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/feeds.feedburner.com/_r/LaurelPapworth-OnlineCommunities-AustraliaAndGlobal/_3/151774460/facebook-at-work-analytics-is-your.html?referer=');">http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/LaurelPapworth-OnlineCommunities-AustraliaAndGlobal/~3/151774460/facebook-at-work-analytics-is-your.html</a> </p>
<p> For a timely hint about the intersection of QUALITATIVE and QUANTITATIVE &#8211; ie tools wot can measure extent of network (connectedness) and potentially impact of stories. </p>
<p> Gotta be a way for DIRC to provide value to government and clients here somewhere. </p>
<p> Fang &#8211; Mike Seyfang</p>
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